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		<title>By: K</title>
		<link>http://transporttextbook.com/?p=846&#038;cpage=1#comment-10054</link>
		<dc:creator>K</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Apr 2010 10:39:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey Loose Shunter, I&#039;d be really interested in your thoughts on Transport for Suburbia.  I&#039;ll hold my comments until you have finished.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey Loose Shunter, I&#8217;d be really interested in your thoughts on Transport for Suburbia.  I&#8217;ll hold my comments until you have finished.</p>
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		<title>By: Loose Shunter</title>
		<link>http://transporttextbook.com/?p=846&#038;cpage=1#comment-10006</link>
		<dc:creator>Loose Shunter</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Apr 2010 23:41:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Even though summer&#039;s now over, it might be worth rolling over the reading list for rainy winter afternoons. I&#039;d add two books to the list:

Paul Mees &lt;i&gt;Transport for Suburbia - Beyond the Automobile Age&lt;/i&gt;. It came out in the UK in December 2009 so I thought it would not get to Australia in summer. I&#039;m reading a copy from the Melbourne University library at the moment and enjoying it. 

Don Hale &lt;i&gt;Mallard&lt;/i&gt;. This is an interesting story about Nigel Gresley, his career and the technology behind the railway &#039;arms race&#039; of the 1930s that saw the British and Germans go head-to-head to break the world railway speed record in the context of Anglo-German rivalry in the 20th Century. Different from the usual hagiography of &#039;great&#039; CMEs of the steam era. 

LS</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Even though summer&#8217;s now over, it might be worth rolling over the reading list for rainy winter afternoons. I&#8217;d add two books to the list:</p>
<p>Paul Mees <i>Transport for Suburbia &#8211; Beyond the Automobile Age</i>. It came out in the UK in December 2009 so I thought it would not get to Australia in summer. I&#8217;m reading a copy from the Melbourne University library at the moment and enjoying it. </p>
<p>Don Hale <i>Mallard</i>. This is an interesting story about Nigel Gresley, his career and the technology behind the railway &#8216;arms race&#8217; of the 1930s that saw the British and Germans go head-to-head to break the world railway speed record in the context of Anglo-German rivalry in the 20th Century. Different from the usual hagiography of &#8216;great&#8217; CMEs of the steam era. </p>
<p>LS</p>
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		<title>By: Loose Shunter</title>
		<link>http://transporttextbook.com/?p=846&#038;cpage=1#comment-5900</link>
		<dc:creator>Loose Shunter</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 22 Nov 2009 23:41:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Notch, a good historical choice that one, coming in as it did on the heels of two major rail reports of 1956 - the Government members report into gauge standardisation (the &#039;Wentworth Report&#039;) and the Labor Party&#039;s rail gauge standardisation report. 

I&#039;d suggest anyone looking for some summer rail reading track down the relevant Parliamentary Papers in either the State Library or major University library and have a read. 

LS</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Notch, a good historical choice that one, coming in as it did on the heels of two major rail reports of 1956 &#8211; the Government members report into gauge standardisation (the &#8216;Wentworth Report&#8217;) and the Labor Party&#8217;s rail gauge standardisation report. </p>
<p>I&#8217;d suggest anyone looking for some summer rail reading track down the relevant Parliamentary Papers in either the State Library or major University library and have a read. </p>
<p>LS</p>
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		<title>By: notch</title>
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		<dc:creator>notch</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 22 Nov 2009 11:28:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;ll add one more - it has no ISBN:

&lt;i&gt;Australia&#039;s Transport Crisis&lt;/i&gt; Edited by John Wilkes, Australian Institute of Political Science, 1956.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ll add one more &#8211; it has no ISBN:</p>
<p><i>Australia&#8217;s Transport Crisis</i> Edited by John Wilkes, Australian Institute of Political Science, 1956.</p>
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		<title>By: Loose Shunter</title>
		<link>http://transporttextbook.com/?p=846&#038;cpage=1#comment-5815</link>
		<dc:creator>Loose Shunter</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Nov 2009 02:29:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Riccardo, 

Thanks for the comments. I think the strength of the Gleeson book is that it recognises that essentially, most Australians come from the suburbs and that if &#039;we&#039; (especially those of us who live in the inner suburbs of our cities) leave those in the middle and outer suburbs who have no hope of escaping to rot, then the existing social and economic polarisation will sharpen and further deteriorate. 

Generational welfare dependence and public housing stigmatised as the housing of last resort is not acceptable to me: by the same token, neither are homeless people living under freeways and railway viaducts and the incarceration of the poor and ignorant. Both will increase the tax burden on the predominantly middle-class tax base, but a humanist intervention to alleviate disadvantage and ignorance would cost less in taxes in the long run.

Anyway, good luck with trying to write your book. Having written a fair bit for a living, it&#039;s not an easy job. 

LS</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Riccardo, </p>
<p>Thanks for the comments. I think the strength of the Gleeson book is that it recognises that essentially, most Australians come from the suburbs and that if &#8216;we&#8217; (especially those of us who live in the inner suburbs of our cities) leave those in the middle and outer suburbs who have no hope of escaping to rot, then the existing social and economic polarisation will sharpen and further deteriorate. </p>
<p>Generational welfare dependence and public housing stigmatised as the housing of last resort is not acceptable to me: by the same token, neither are homeless people living under freeways and railway viaducts and the incarceration of the poor and ignorant. Both will increase the tax burden on the predominantly middle-class tax base, but a humanist intervention to alleviate disadvantage and ignorance would cost less in taxes in the long run.</p>
<p>Anyway, good luck with trying to write your book. Having written a fair bit for a living, it&#8217;s not an easy job. </p>
<p>LS</p>
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		<title>By: Riccardo</title>
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		<dc:creator>Riccardo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Nov 2009 00:36:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Might be time to write something too. My wife is vanity pressing her work at some point in the near future (with my encouragement). I have no formal background in urban planning (but some in transport planning) and there are far better authors at both topics than me.

But I would like to see a work that caters to the view that &#039;more of the same&#039; ain&#039;t gonna work - more rent seeking, more splashing of taxpayers money, more path of least resistance policy development - will not produce a situation different from what we have now with policy gridlock and discredited institutions.

So I might have to write it myself.

I was going to do a review of the Gleeson book for this board.

Not overly impressed - particularly not with the conclusion (you know the one, Peter Parker!) where we are all brought together for this giant group hug and all our social differences are forgotten.

Dreadlocked lentil eating lefties are supposed to come out from Northcote or Newtown on their bicycles to the suburbs and see how people live, empathise with them blah blah blah. And the favour is supposed to be returned (I don&#039;t know how).

Society will not change because of group hugs. People have valid, conflicting interests (hence the presence of markets and elections). People need to fight for their interests. 

And I&#039;m only half joking when I&#039;ve said it would be good if PCs could run on the energy generated from keyboard strokes - mine would run for a good many hours and so would much of our cities from the friction that living in a city or society generates.

And cities exist because of economic spatial efficiency (at the point where congestion begins to threaten that efficiency). Not because humans fundamentally like each other.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Might be time to write something too. My wife is vanity pressing her work at some point in the near future (with my encouragement). I have no formal background in urban planning (but some in transport planning) and there are far better authors at both topics than me.</p>
<p>But I would like to see a work that caters to the view that &#8216;more of the same&#8217; ain&#8217;t gonna work &#8211; more rent seeking, more splashing of taxpayers money, more path of least resistance policy development &#8211; will not produce a situation different from what we have now with policy gridlock and discredited institutions.</p>
<p>So I might have to write it myself.</p>
<p>I was going to do a review of the Gleeson book for this board.</p>
<p>Not overly impressed &#8211; particularly not with the conclusion (you know the one, Peter Parker!) where we are all brought together for this giant group hug and all our social differences are forgotten.</p>
<p>Dreadlocked lentil eating lefties are supposed to come out from Northcote or Newtown on their bicycles to the suburbs and see how people live, empathise with them blah blah blah. And the favour is supposed to be returned (I don&#8217;t know how).</p>
<p>Society will not change because of group hugs. People have valid, conflicting interests (hence the presence of markets and elections). People need to fight for their interests. </p>
<p>And I&#8217;m only half joking when I&#8217;ve said it would be good if PCs could run on the energy generated from keyboard strokes &#8211; mine would run for a good many hours and so would much of our cities from the friction that living in a city or society generates.</p>
<p>And cities exist because of economic spatial efficiency (at the point where congestion begins to threaten that efficiency). Not because humans fundamentally like each other.</p>
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		<title>By: Riccardo</title>
		<link>http://transporttextbook.com/?p=846&#038;cpage=1#comment-5811</link>
		<dc:creator>Riccardo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Nov 2009 00:20:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Might not have much of a spare summer but will be reading Eleven Minutes Late: A train journey to the soul of Britain.</description>
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		<title>By: Loose Shunter</title>
		<link>http://transporttextbook.com/?p=846&#038;cpage=1#comment-5785</link>
		<dc:creator>Loose Shunter</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Nov 2009 06:11:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Russ, another book on my particular area of interest (the transport planning/urban planning/economic planning nexus) that I would add is the slim volume in the &#039;Briefings&#039; series by Jago Dodson and Neil Sipe &lt;i&gt;Shocking the Suburbs: oil vulnerability in the Australian city&lt;/i&gt;. This extends the work they&#039;ve done on the VAMPIRE index of the economic stress caused to households by concurrent rises in interest rates and petrol prices to the more general issue of re-building Australian cities to deal with the increase in petrol prices.

LS</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Russ, another book on my particular area of interest (the transport planning/urban planning/economic planning nexus) that I would add is the slim volume in the &#8216;Briefings&#8217; series by Jago Dodson and Neil Sipe <i>Shocking the Suburbs: oil vulnerability in the Australian city</i>. This extends the work they&#8217;ve done on the VAMPIRE index of the economic stress caused to households by concurrent rises in interest rates and petrol prices to the more general issue of re-building Australian cities to deal with the increase in petrol prices.</p>
<p>LS</p>
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		<title>By: Russ</title>
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		<dc:creator>Russ</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Nov 2009 04:42:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>LS, I have read (skimmed actually, but I own them, so I will again) both the Gleeson books.  I like Flyvbjerg, Hommels, L+M and Altshuler because they show the dirty side of transport/urban politics, funding and just plain inertia, that can&#039;t be ignored.  Flyvbjerg is much more fun outside class, if you like your politics (I do, so...).  

McLoughlin is for Melbourne readers, to see how little progress planning in Victoria has made in 20 years.  Garreau, Bogart and Levine are at the nexus of land use, economics and transport which I think is the best place to be.  I highly recommend the Levine; I haven&#039;t read a clearer discussion of the relationship between transport and density.  The Shoup and Brown-May are interesting perspectives from the street level, if anyone has an interest in social transport policy.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>LS, I have read (skimmed actually, but I own them, so I will again) both the Gleeson books.  I like Flyvbjerg, Hommels, L+M and Altshuler because they show the dirty side of transport/urban politics, funding and just plain inertia, that can&#8217;t be ignored.  Flyvbjerg is much more fun outside class, if you like your politics (I do, so&#8230;).  </p>
<p>McLoughlin is for Melbourne readers, to see how little progress planning in Victoria has made in 20 years.  Garreau, Bogart and Levine are at the nexus of land use, economics and transport which I think is the best place to be.  I highly recommend the Levine; I haven&#8217;t read a clearer discussion of the relationship between transport and density.  The Shoup and Brown-May are interesting perspectives from the street level, if anyone has an interest in social transport policy.</p>
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		<title>By: Loose Shunter</title>
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		<dc:creator>Loose Shunter</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Nov 2009 00:29:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Russ,

I greatly enjoyed reading Garreau&#039;s &lt;i&gt;Edge City&lt;/i&gt; and struggled through Flyvbjerg as a set text in my Masters of Urban Planning course.

In my list I was trying to keep things more transport-oriented with a bit of urban planning thrown in to give a very broad context of the kind of political and planning environment transport operates in. The Gleeson book is one of the best texts in terms of how it pulls lots of different strands of planning together with a real humanist touch. I can highly recommend it to you (and everyone else) to read. 

LS</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Russ,</p>
<p>I greatly enjoyed reading Garreau&#8217;s <i>Edge City</i> and struggled through Flyvbjerg as a set text in my Masters of Urban Planning course.</p>
<p>In my list I was trying to keep things more transport-oriented with a bit of urban planning thrown in to give a very broad context of the kind of political and planning environment transport operates in. The Gleeson book is one of the best texts in terms of how it pulls lots of different strands of planning together with a real humanist touch. I can highly recommend it to you (and everyone else) to read. </p>
<p>LS</p>
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