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		<title>By: Alexwebmaster</title>
		<link>http://transporttextbook.com/?p=16&#038;cpage=1#comment-1528</link>
		<dc:creator>Alexwebmaster</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Mar 2009 11:43:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hello webmaster<br />
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		<title>By: Transport Textbook &#187; Blog Archive &#187; The Victorian Transport Plan: Tarneit and Regional Rail Link</title>
		<link>http://transporttextbook.com/?p=16&#038;cpage=1#comment-837</link>
		<dc:creator>Transport Textbook &#187; Blog Archive &#187; The Victorian Transport Plan: Tarneit and Regional Rail Link</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Dec 2008 01:08:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] at North Melbourne. The tunnel, at 2.5km long, would cost in the order of $867.5 million based on Eddington costs, or $196.8 million based on Epping-Chatswood costs. But we have to remember that the freight tunnel [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] at North Melbourne. The tunnel, at 2.5km long, would cost in the order of $867.5 million based on Eddington costs, or $196.8 million based on Epping-Chatswood costs. But we have to remember that the freight tunnel [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Riccardo</title>
		<link>http://transporttextbook.com/?p=16&#038;cpage=1#comment-94</link>
		<dc:creator>Riccardo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 06 Oct 2008 01:57:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It would be good if the line to Bayswater was four tracks (and six from Claisebrook?). Four tracks should be able to take all of Ellenbrook, Airport and Midland services.

A shame a NE suburbs railway couldn&#039;t be built heading north out of Perth station so that the Armidales and Thornlies are through routed.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It would be good if the line to Bayswater was four tracks (and six from Claisebrook?). Four tracks should be able to take all of Ellenbrook, Airport and Midland services.</p>
<p>A shame a NE suburbs railway couldn&#8217;t be built heading north out of Perth station so that the Armidales and Thornlies are through routed.</p>
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		<title>By: Phin</title>
		<link>http://transporttextbook.com/?p=16&#038;cpage=1#comment-88</link>
		<dc:creator>Phin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 05 Oct 2008 12:40:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Riccardo - sounds like a great idea to me - I&#039;d love to have a really in depth look into it sometime!

cheers 
Phin</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Riccardo &#8211; sounds like a great idea to me &#8211; I&#8217;d love to have a really in depth look into it sometime!</p>
<p>cheers<br />
Phin</p>
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		<title>By: James</title>
		<link>http://transporttextbook.com/?p=16&#038;cpage=1#comment-86</link>
		<dc:creator>James</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 05 Oct 2008 12:25:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Riccardo: the hope for Morley was always some sort of rapid transit (bus or tram) up Beaufort St, which has a long commercial strip in Inglewood. This is the route of the &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.transperth.wa.gov.au/timetablePDFs/Eastern%20102%2020080810.pdf&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;66 bus route&lt;/a&gt; (which is limited stop), other services worth looking at are the 60 and &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.transperth.wa.gov.au/timetablePDFs/Eastern%20106%2020080810.pdf&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;21/22&lt;/a&gt;. I don&#039;t think it would be too hard to extend this to the railway line at Tonkin Hwy.

With a line to the airport looking likely, it seems probable that the Ellenbrook line costs included duplication of the Midland line.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Riccardo: the hope for Morley was always some sort of rapid transit (bus or tram) up Beaufort St, which has a long commercial strip in Inglewood. This is the route of the <a href="http://www.transperth.wa.gov.au/timetablePDFs/Eastern%20102%2020080810.pdf" rel="nofollow">66 bus route</a> (which is limited stop), other services worth looking at are the 60 and <a href="http://www.transperth.wa.gov.au/timetablePDFs/Eastern%20106%2020080810.pdf" rel="nofollow">21/22</a>. I don&#8217;t think it would be too hard to extend this to the railway line at Tonkin Hwy.</p>
<p>With a line to the airport looking likely, it seems probable that the Ellenbrook line costs included duplication of the Midland line.</p>
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		<title>By: Riccardo</title>
		<link>http://transporttextbook.com/?p=16&#038;cpage=1#comment-82</link>
		<dc:creator>Riccardo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 05 Oct 2008 05:00:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Phin

I&#039;d like to do a very longterm project together with yourself to do a complete look at rail economics, including construction and operation.</description>
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<p>I&#8217;d like to do a very longterm project together with yourself to do a complete look at rail economics, including construction and operation.</p>
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		<title>By: Riccardo</title>
		<link>http://transporttextbook.com/?p=16&#038;cpage=1#comment-54</link>
		<dc:creator>Riccardo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 26 Sep 2008 10:40:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The West (Worst) is quoting the new WA Treasurer and admirer of the scent of chairs:
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Only a day after announcing a $700 million blowout in 30 key infrastructure projects such as the Perth Arena, the Treasurer said the $850 million Ellenbrook railway line was now likely to cost in excess of $1.2 billion, highlighting the challenge facing the new Government to meet competing demands. Mr Buswell said the railway line would be built because it was an election pledge. 
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Interesting that while the Liberals are trying to demonstrate the cost blowout is Labor&#039;s fault (which I can&#039;t see the link, but that is an aside) the line still seems to be priced at WA prices rather than NSW/Vic prices which always seem to be several orders of magnitude greater.

There is no exact map for Ellenbrook line because the planning studies have only been indicative, however, using whereis.com and planning a journey from SW Ellenbrook (Lord St) via Reid Hwy, West Swan, to Bayswater Station makes 21.6 km, which suggests $55m a km. This is largely freeway/arterial running with several overpasses and some greenfield running near the end. It is unknown whether extra tracks would be built from Bayswater into the city, or interleaved with Midland services that are already near capacity.

The opportunity to run the services via Morley Westfield might probably not happen (this, for non-WA people, would be like building a Rowville line that misses Chadstone or Monash Uni, or building a NW line that misses the big shopping and business areas of Castle Hill).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The West (Worst) is quoting the new WA Treasurer and admirer of the scent of chairs:<br />
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Only a day after announcing a $700 million blowout in 30 key infrastructure projects such as the Perth Arena, the Treasurer said the $850 million Ellenbrook railway line was now likely to cost in excess of $1.2 billion, highlighting the challenge facing the new Government to meet competing demands. Mr Buswell said the railway line would be built because it was an election pledge.<br />
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Interesting that while the Liberals are trying to demonstrate the cost blowout is Labor&#8217;s fault (which I can&#8217;t see the link, but that is an aside) the line still seems to be priced at WA prices rather than NSW/Vic prices which always seem to be several orders of magnitude greater.</p>
<p>There is no exact map for Ellenbrook line because the planning studies have only been indicative, however, using whereis.com and planning a journey from SW Ellenbrook (Lord St) via Reid Hwy, West Swan, to Bayswater Station makes 21.6 km, which suggests $55m a km. This is largely freeway/arterial running with several overpasses and some greenfield running near the end. It is unknown whether extra tracks would be built from Bayswater into the city, or interleaved with Midland services that are already near capacity.</p>
<p>The opportunity to run the services via Morley Westfield might probably not happen (this, for non-WA people, would be like building a Rowville line that misses Chadstone or Monash Uni, or building a NW line that misses the big shopping and business areas of Castle Hill).</p>
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